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    italiano

I recently purchased the Dudu7 with the 360 camera system…direct from Mekede Mall.

Can any tell me if they have installed the 360 camera system in a Fiat Ducato based chassis motor home. The motor home is 7.5mtrs in length.

I understand on a regular car the side cameras are installed in the wing mirrors…though with the motor home being longer…would the side camera be positioned in the wing mirrors or does it need to be positioned else where..?

Appreciate any advice or guidance..

Has anyone actually had this system installed on a Motorhome.?

Thanks.

    Rigstud Can be mounted on the side of the car (not under the reverse mirror), you need to customize your own camera mounting bracket, the standard bracket is not suitable for your car!

      Hi,

      Thanks for your reply.

      Does fitting at any particular height matter.?? Do all 4 cameras need to be fitted at the same height or can they all be different.

      The front mounted camera will be fitted in the in-take grill. My existing reverse camera is fitted on the top which is approximately 2.2m high...do the side cameras need to be fit at any particular height or can they all be at fitted at different heights with no issues in performance etc..

      Poc of the existing reverse camera in the rear moulding.

        Rigstud It is recommended that the left and right cameras be at the same height and position for better imaging in the 360-degree bird's eye view.
        The front and rear cameras do not have this requirement.

            dudu-lai Are you saying that the front / rear cameras do not have to be at the same height as the side cameras?

            AND: Do you know if all 4 of the cameras have the same lens and field view angle? (just different bodies)

                Rigstud

                If you are planning to mount the little round semi-spherical cameras on a vehicle over (approximately) 4m long, they need to be mounted higher up than they were designed for. The Side cameras provided in the 360 degree camera kit are intended to be mounted on a horizontal surface, normally on the underside of the side wing mirrors. This will not work on a large vehicle.

                Some people have reported that it IS possible to mount the provided side cameras on the bottom of a protrusion of some kind if it is high enough up to expand the cameras view of the ground to beyond the front and rear bumpers.

                Here you can see someone has inserted the camera into an aftermarket 'Clearance' or 'Marker' light.

                Another option for a motorhome might be the underside of an exterior 'Porch' light over the side door.

                I have plugged in my 360° camera kit and done much experimenting on my Mercedes Sprinter van (pictured at the top here). I determined that (at best) the provided Side cameras can almost see both front and back bumpers at the same time if I mount it it the very top-centre and tilt the camera's horizontal surface 22° looking back, and at the same time, 22° pointing out from the vehicle (As shown in the sketch). It would also need to be a few inches out from the side of the vehicle. This is just experimentation - I did NOT yet succeed in finding meaningful information on the lenses in these cameras.

                Most people who say they've adapted the DUDU 360 kit to a larger vehicle report that they've had to discard the provided Side cameras and replace them with units like the provided 'Front' camera... Some claim that they have a wider (and possibly shorter) field of view, but I cannot tell from my experimentation so far... they do seem to have a more adaptable (but less streamlined) mounting bracket..

                When mounting the Square 'Front' camera on a large vehicle, you will also still need to mount it higher up to increase the amount of ground it can see. No matter where you mount it, the provided Mounting Bracket does not work - it is designed inverted. If you use the provided bracket the camera can only point up into the sky away from the vehicle, or (flipping the bracket upside down) pointing into the car body not seeing the ground... if you have access to a 3D printer, this design error can be corrected using an adapter plate screwed to the provided mounting bracket. 3D files are not allowed to be posted in this forum, but you can find the file on the 'HW Installation Support' channel of the 'DUDUAUTO Global' Telegram Server at https://t.me/duduauto and search for 'Sony307 Camera Bracket Inverter.stl'
                or at https://www.printables.com/model/1280909-sony307-camera-bracket-inverter

                Unfortunately, I cannot reliably tell you where to get the camera that you probably need.
                None of the DUDUAUTO sellers I've asked on Aliexpress will agree to sell me the 'Front' cameras that they include in the 360° kit. (Nor will they sell the cable extensions or longer camera cables that you will also need for a longer, taller vehicle.) If buying from a DUDUAUTO seller, you may need to buy 3 of the kits to get the 3 'Front' 360° cameras and just dispose of the other 6 unused cameras.

                Otherwise, if you find another seller whose cameras are verified to be compatible with DUDU7, then please let us know!

                So far, I believe they must be: 5V (NOT 12V), Sony307 sensor, 2053 chip, AHD, WDR, 1080p, F1.6 aperture ... not sure about the lens but I *think the side ones are 193° horizontal viewing angle, and 151° Vertical viewing angle. I could not find the manufacturer of the connectors they use, but am *fairly certain that they are compatible with Jansite 4-pin connectors. A friend who is a professional installer asserts that mixing different manufacturers of this type of connector will always work at first, then always fail over time. Since DUDUAUTO sellers will not sell the extension cables and you will likely need to get the side cameras from another vendor as well, you may want to consider cutting off the connectors and making them all from the same manufacturer.

                I've been working at finding this information for weeks and it has been very piecemeal and could be wrong. If There are any errors, I will try to correct them as I find out more in my attempt to install my DUDU7 360° cameras on my van.

                Whatever you choose to do, you will certainly need to temporarily mount the cameras in place to verify their function and alignment before drilling holes and running cables!

                PLEASE let us know if you are successful and what you did!

                  Thanks for the info above...very informative..!!

                  I will bare this in mind when making my install.

                  Thanks

                  Hi all,

                  Thank you very much everyone for the effort put into this thread. I see there's quite some knowledge and experimenting going on.

                  I am considering installing the 360 system on a VW T6 van. It is longer than 4m (4.903m to be exact). I'm hoping that, due to the fact that the mirrors are a bit higher up, the field of view of the cameras would be sufficient. Has anybody ever done this on a smaller van, such as a VW T6, Ford Transit or the likes?

                  ManOfScience Yes, the viewing angle is the same.

                      dudu-lai lol - I should have checked the forum earlier today! I spent the day figuring out how to measure the field of view of the Front and Side cameras in the DUDU360 kit - so I just found out the same thing the hard way!
                      Thanks for the reply though!

                      Rigstud , CDRX , et. al.
                      From my testing today, I strongly suspect that the 4 cameras have the same internals and lenses and that they simply have different cases/enclosures. In addition to different cases, the default settings in the 360 Panorama software make the cameras initially look like they have different lenses with different fields of view... Even if you change the angle setting to '2D Org', the difference in 'Zoom' and 'Move' settings when comparing Front to Side may make them look like different cameras.

                      When I switch to '2D Org' and make settings the same then the Side and Front cameras appear identical and, after zooming out all the way, they seem to have the same fields of view as well.

                      When you first start up the 360 view it might appear like the round Side camera cannot show enough Field of View (FOV) for a long vehicle, however it could simply be because the default values in the software have it Zoomed in a lot and Panned back to the rear. You may need to mount it higher up, and in a custom mounting, but I now believe that a different camera would not change the initial view.

                      Today I measured the Front and Side cameras Field of View. (I ran out of time to swap in the Rear and measure it too)
                      I found that the X axis (Up-Down or in-out from the side of the car) has around 130° field of view, and the Y Axis (Side-to-side or parallel along the side of the car) has around a 185° FOV. This is around 15° less than some published Sony307 camera modules, but there is certainly some rough judgement call regarding where the useful Viewing Field ends as you reach the distorted edge of the fisheye lens.

                      After my testing today, I believe that if you can create custom mountings, there is no reason one camera in the DUDU 360 kit would be any better for a given location than any of the other 360 cameras... If anyone has any information to the contrary, please let us know!

                            dudu-lai , Thanks again for replying to this!

                            Can you also say if the Front and Rear 360 cameras are the same model? (Just different mounting bracket?)

                                ManOfScience Same model